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Movie Box Sets w Double-Sided Discs: To Split or Not To Split (child profiles)?
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A movie box set with double-sided discs should have a separate child profile per side (40)
A movie box set should have ONLY one child profile per disc, irregardless of double-sides (16)
A movie box set should have the option to split their double-sided discs if majority database voters agree (4)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsnarbo
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I was not implying that I created a separate profile for the bonus features on side B of the Superman The Movie disc, just that the two sides have different Disc ID's, so surely the two Film's could be profiled by Disc ID.

Steve

I8E2343A1EA125BF5 under Region 2 UK is the profile in question if you wish to see.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorschultzy
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Just for clarification so I understand things as far as how the rules are now.

If you have a disc that has two movies on the same side, you would use one profile and cast/crew dividers

If you have a disc with a movie on each side, you would make it a boxset and each side would be a child profile

Now if you have two movies on each side, you would make it a box set as in example 2, but each child would be set up as example 1.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSquirrelecto
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting schultzy:
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Just for clarification so I understand things as far as how the rules are now.

If you have a disc that has two movies on the same side, you would use one profile and cast/crew dividers

If you have a disc with a movie on each side, you would make it a boxset and each side would be a child profile

Now if you have two movies on each side, you would make it a box set as in example 2, but each child would be set up as example 1.


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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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Registered: March 17, 2007
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Quoting skipnet50:
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This would inflate your disc count, resulting in bogus numbers...this would probably inflate title count to around 4500, from over 3000.


Actually, in DVD Profiler 3 you can download the "bogus side" profiles and still enjoy an accurate disc count.  Everytime you find download a profile for a "bogus side", select that profile, go to:
DVD > Personalize...
That will open the Personalize DVD box.  Next to "Collection Number" is a check box marked "None."  After you check it and save by selecting "OK," DVD Profiler 3 will remove that inventory number and not count that disc in your total. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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LOL, you think not. I have been doing this for years DJ. You have much to learn my young jedi. Using the system as I use it I have 3019 DVDs but only 2350 titles. It doesn't work as you think it should.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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Quoting skipnet50:
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It doesn't work as you think it should.


Really?  So sometimes if you uncheck it DVD Profiler will still count it anyway?

This thread is interesting because there are so many different numbers people would like to see from their inventory, like:
DVD Titles
DVD Discs
DVD Sides
Movie Titles
and maybe, number of TV episodes
oh heck, while I'm at it how about Total Playing Time of Your Entire Collection? 

Hopefully Ken is taking notes for DVD Profiler 4 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting skipnet50:
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LOL, you think not. I have been doing this for years DJ. You have much to learn my young jedi. Using the system as I use it I have 3019 DVDs but only 2350 titles. It doesn't work as you think it should.

Skip

Hmmm, I am doing the same way as DJ does and feel that my "movie count" is accurate enough (there is a few things that cannot be accounted for, but I can live with that).

Can you tell us what you are doing different and why it is more accurate?
Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Accuracy is in the eye of the beholder, Achim

For a Movie Boxset, I do NOT assign a number to the Box but to each title.

For TV Series I do it the exact opposite, the Master gets the number the children do NOT.

I am not interested as much in how many discs I have, as much as I am titles, someone else might have a complteely different approach, but as I said just a rough guess. Using both sides would balloon my Total DVD count to about 4500.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood djskyler then. because in fact I am doing exactly what you are doing (not assigning numbers to bonus discs of Box Sets though, but maybe you just didn't mention that).

But I thought that was was he was basically saying, that one can set the collection number to None, to adjust the accuracy of what is being counted in accordance to ones personal preference...
Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative)
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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one can set the collection number to None, to adjust the accuracy of what is being counted in accordance to ones personal preference...


Yes ya_shin, that is what I meant.  By removing collection numbers your can adjust down, which I thought would work to eliminate Skip's extra sides.

For myself there is less room for accuracy because I prefer a movie count, which would require a count upwards for some movie box sets. 

For Airport Terminal Pack: The Franchise Collection there is one box parent plus four sides (1 + 4 = 5).  I remove the collection number for the parent and now it is accurate for number of actual movies (4). 

But for The Classic Sci-Fi Ultimate Collection there is one parent plus three sides (1 + 3 = 4).  In that set there are 5 movies, so even though that parent keeps its collection number, I am still 1 short for actual number of movies.

I don't even want to get into the Mill Valley Entertainment sets  (50 Movie Packs)
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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So in the poll voting so far it appears 72% favor always splitting double-sided disc profiles for movie box sets.
21% are against ever splitting discs.
7% are okay with both methods available in the database.

As I attempt to enter more "B-side" disc profiles into my inventory, it seems like the 7% currently win out, as there is quite a mix of the two approaches in the database.

The profiles I've found with split double discs include:
Airport Terminal Pack: The Franchise Collection
The Bela Lugosi Collection: The Franchise Collection (1 out of 2 sides)
The Classic Sci-Fi Ultimate Collection
Don Knotts Reluctanct Hero Pack: The Franchise Collection
Dracula: The Legacy Collection
Frankenstein: The Legacy Collection
Inner Sanctum Mysteries: The Franchise Collection
Invisible Man: The Legacy Collection
The Mummy: The Legacy Collection
Smokey and the Bandit Pursuit Pack: The Legacy Collection
The Wolf Man: The Legacy Collection

The profiles without split double-discs include:
The Adventures of Francis the Talking Mule Vol 1: The Franchise Collection
The Adventures of Ma and Pa Kettle Vol 1: The Franchise Collection
The Adventures of Ma and Pa Kettle Vol 2: The Franchise Collection
The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Vol 1: The Franchise Collection
The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Vol 2: The Franchise Collection
The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Vol 3: The Franchise Collection
The Best of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Vol 4: The Franchise Collection
Ghost of Dragstrip Hollow/Ghost in the Invisible Bikini: MGM Midnight Movies
Incredible Two-Headed Transplant/Thing with Two Heads: MGM Midnight Movies

I guess after we finish submitting those profiles in our collections still not in the database, there's plenty of work to be done on these disc sides 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
Registered: April 4, 2007
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Quoting ya_shin:
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Hmmm, maybe I misunderstood djskyler then. because in fact I am doing exactly what you are doing (not assigning numbers to bonus discs of Box Sets though, but maybe you just didn't mention that).


same method here, every movie gets a one number and every season of a series, boxsets, bonus discs, non-movie dvds and series child profiles don't
- Jan
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