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We need Clarification On 'quotes', and not just voting will get it done. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,, I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,,
I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums...
If I had the titles, I'd vote Yes (to it being "Crocadile" Dundee). I can see that "Crocadile" is indeed quoted in the legal stuff on the back of the case. At least it is on the covers in the DB. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. | | | Last edited: by Mark Harrison |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,,
I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums...
If I had the titles, I'd vote Yes (to it being "Crocadile" Dundee). I can see that "Crocadile" is indeed quoted in the legal stuff on the back of the case. At least it is on the covers in the DB. I hope that was a spelling error for Crocodile ?? and on the covers in the DB?... data base? The three titles we have been debating all along have the quotes on the covers in the DB., and in the legal stuff,. the overviews in my opinion are not the legal stuff. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,,
I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums...
You mean you're not going to touch Meredith Wilson's "The Music Man"? That one's gonna be a hoot. | | | Last edited: by mdnitoil |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,394 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,,
I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums...
If I had the titles, I'd vote Yes (to it being "Crocadile" Dundee). I can see that "Crocadile" is indeed quoted in the legal stuff on the back of the case. At least it is on the covers in the DB. I'd have to vote no to "Crod adile if I had that title. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole) Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,494 |
| Posted: | | | | where's my pen? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: I really wish you people would learn how to FORMAT your quotes. If you can't do it, then don't try. It is a huge mess to try and go through. Sorry. I fixed it up a bit. Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting m.cellophane:
Quote: Quoting skipnet50:
Quote: I am NOT saying that, James. I am saying that there are two users who know what the precise intent of every aspect of the Rules is. Ken and Gerri?
No, he said 'users'. I believe he is refering to himself and Dan. I know. I should have added a at the end. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,203 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote: Quoting Mark Harrison:
Quote: Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote: If I may step in here for a second,, I wanted to say that when all this is hopefully fixed ,,
I will be putting forth "Crocodile" Dundee as my next 'quotes project' to debate in the forums...
If I had the titles, I'd vote Yes (to it being "Crocadile" Dundee). I can see that "Crocadile" is indeed quoted in the legal stuff on the back of the case. At least it is on the covers in the DB.
I hope that was a spelling error for Crocodile ??
and on the covers in the DB?... data base? The three titles we have been debating all along have the quotes on the covers in the DB., and in the legal stuff,. the overviews in my opinion are not the legal stuff.
On the back of the case, at least the ones I am looking at, it says "Crocodile" Dundee is a trademark of Paramount Pictures All Rights Reserved. I believe that is the 'legal stuff' Mark is talking about. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: On the back of the case, at least the ones I am looking at, it says "Crocodile" Dundee is a trademark of Paramount Pictures All Rights Reserved. I believe that is the 'legal stuff' Mark is talking about. Yes. Thank you. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't see any need to discuss these insane ideas over 14 pages. Just vote them down and have some faith in Ken. Quoting Ken Cole:Quote:
DVD Profiler must walk a fine line between enough accuracy to keep one side of the aisle happy while maintaining ease of use and entry to keep the other, generally somewhat silent and large majority happy. My development experience is not trivial, and I've been forced to design systems where one person's concept of accuracy has driven the project into the ground, completely unusable to the end users. I don't plan to make that mistake here. Bolded by me for emphasis. | | | Matthias |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: Mark:
I have repeatedly said I do not disagree with the position espoused by James and Hal and supported by others, but as a data dinkI see a problem and I have suggested a reasonable fix.
Skip Then why haven't you withdrawn your "no" vote on the current Mister Roberts contribution? | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: Quoting skipnet50:
Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: No one has denied that "Mister Roberts" appears on screen.
That does not change the fact that the film's title is [b]Mister Roberts.[/b]
Please go to the New Features Forum and start a thread for the addition of a "Scape the On-Screen Title display along with before and after frames" field.
I'm certain it will get overwhelming support!
Not!
Hal:
What do you base that on. It is not based on anything from the film credits which is what the Rules say. It is based either on your personal opinion or from third party source both of which are excluded from the Rules.<shrugs>n You can cite Library of Congress if you wish but that is not what the Rules say. So once again, I am merely trying to figure out how to accomodate both what you want and what the film ACTUALLY says.
Skip
Check the copyrighted title! Simple!
Hal:
The Rule does not say to do that.
Now does it.
Skip It says "enter the title from the film's credits". When you look at the screen, and there is some question as to what on that screen is in fact the title, the copyright data will quickly assist you in determining which data "on the screen" is actually the title, so it is completely consistent with the Rules to refer to the copyright data when "entering the title from the films credits". | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm not seeing a lot of love for my "title screenshot datafield" idea. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | I know from time to time Skip will take DVD Profiler issues to his wife. As a database “something” (sorry Skip), she's very qualified to answer questions having to do with databases. Inspired by that, and the fact that the usual suspects seem to simply drag up the usual arguments, I decide to take a page from Skip's book and take this whole Mister Roberts issue to my wife for her opinion.
So I went to her and explained the problem and asked her opinion. She ignored me of course, so I asked her opinion again. Then I tapped her shoulder and asked again. She said "What?" So I explained the situation again and asked her opinion again. Then she said, "Leave me alone. I'm trying to read". Now, as someone who's been married for 13 years now, I know that perseverance is the key. So I followed her up to our bedroom and got my foot in the door (literally) before she could shut it. She said she didn’t know, so I explained it again. Several times. Finally we agreed that if she helped me, I would help her and get her two aspirin and leave her alone (another key to marriage right there: give and take).
So finally she agreed that “Mr. Rogers” (her words not mine), should indeed have quotes. Then I said “No, no, no! It should NOT have quotes”. And she said, “Yeah, that’s what I meant to say”.
So there you have even more evidence from a completely unbiased outsider. I might add that she has no preconceived notions, past grudges or really any stake at all in the outcome. So there’s no reason to not trust in her opinion. How much weight her opinion should have is obviously up to the individual voter, as it should be. But I thought some might find value in an outsider's thoughts on the topic. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | And here we are again, spending hour after hour, page after page, arguing with one (count 'em) single individual, lone obstinate user that he is wrong and we (all the rest of us) are right! Can someone please, please explain to me why we, as a community, do this to ourselves over and over and over again? It is simply preposterous. You would think that after all these debates, we would have learned that Skip eats this stuff up....thrives on it....would be absolutely lost without it. Obviously, we just love the guy to death! Are we all so blind as to not see what is actually going on here? | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: ...
Are we all so blind as to not see what is actually going on here? Could it be that the "Tin Foil Hat" is covering all our eyes? Note: "Tin Foil Hat" needs both caps and quotes to have its full power to save us from the Dark Ones!pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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