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The Birds
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Rick:

I exoect nothing from someone with the intelligence level of a gnat, such as yoursalef. You behave and act like a total idiot. Your post was not a surprise. The others who chose to comment, well they to are expected, particularly the resident amoeba televel. As for johnd you don't get it and never will so give up.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Rick:

I exoect nothing from someone with the intelligence level of a gnat, such as yoursalef. You behave and act like a total idiot. Your post was not a surprise. The others who chose to comment, well they to are expected, particularly the resident amoeba televel. As for johnd you don't get it and never will so give up.

Skip

Congratulations on proving Ricks point perfectly.

Although you missed me in your tirade of insults... I am sure you quickly rectify that now that I have dared to respond to you. 
Andy

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I am not interested in ANYTHING a Rule Breaker and Vote Stuffer has to say, sir.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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Quoting skipnet50:
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I am not interested in ANYTHING a Rule Breaker and Vote Stuffer has to say, sir.

Skip

Ah, there we go... 

Funny, if it broke the rules, and the votes were stuffed, why was it accepted? Maybe answer it in the SRP thread to keep this one on topic of the film titled "The Birds".
Andy

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Quoting skipnet50:
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I am not interested in ANYTHING a Rule Breaker and Vote Stuffer has to say, sir.

Skip


That's right princess, you ignore the big bad rule breaker.
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Registered: March 15, 2007
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Rick:

I exoect nothing from someone with the intelligence level of a gnat, such as yoursalef. You behave and act like a total idiot. Your post was not a surprise. The others who chose to comment, well they to are expected, particularly the resident amoeba televel. As for johnd you don't get it and never will so give up.

Skip


This post has finally disqualified you as a member of this community. If I was in charge, this would be followed by an immediate ban.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsugarjoe
Registered: March 15, 2007
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This thread demonstrates the bizarre depths that Skip and others have dragged DVDProfiler. These people have totally lost sight of the intent of the product. DVDProfiler is a tool to enhance the enjoyment of movies, not something to hold a dry and dusty catalogue.

If a set of rules diminishes the tools ability to perform this function, then the rules must change. This thread, and several others, demonstrate that some users are prepared to suck all the fun out of this product.

For instance, the slavish listing of cast "as listed in the film" means that the ability to view all movies for a particular actor is now essentially broken, particularly for those earlier films where he may not have settled on the name form he currently uses. "Credited as" is not working, as there are still lots of updates coming down where the cast name is changed, rather than using the "credited as" function.

This thread shows how this perdantic interpretation actually harms the usefullness of the data. "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds" as a title is plainly ridiculous. This is not the title of the movie, regardless of arguments to the contrary. Consult any textbook on film to see how stupid this argument is.

And trying to bully people into accepting it just won't work, Skip being the prime example of this yet again.


Well said John, I could not agree more.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Lopek, you and others are allowed to behave in any socially unacceptable way in which you choose and insult people at will, while breaking the Rules While trying to force others to behave and do what YOU want. Sorry, you are a piece of work in absolutely the worst sense, infact recently you voted AGAINST the the Rules and YOU were the ONLY such vote. So I know where you stand and I know how youu behave and you have some mindless followers.

tlevel you completely IRRELEVANT, grow up , child.

Skip
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Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Sugar:

Both John's comment and your support demonstrate a clear lack of understanding about this program and its multi-tiered design. "Usefulness of the data" is in the eye of the beholder and hence belongs locally. There are some users who find it useful to group all of James Bond films together and in sequence adn used to actually try to impose that will upon the Online, James Bond 04 is not useful to most users, they would be looking for Thunderball, likewise with virtually every aspect of the program The ultimate usefulness of the data is strictly a user interpretation and belongs nowwhere other than in the that user's LOCAL database.

Skip
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Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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Anyway, moving on from the pointless hypocritical insults and non-specific vote red herrings, back on topic...

Have we had any evidence as yet to justify the title "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds"? Incidentally would it not be "Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds" following the title capitalisaton rules 

Or are we agreed that it is "The Birds"?




Note: "Because I said so", "it just is", etc. are not valid examples of evidence or documentation.
Andy

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Both John's comment and your support demonstrate a clear lack of understanding about this program and its multi-tiered design. "Usefulness of the data" is in the eye of the beholder and hence belongs locally. There are some users who find it useful to group all of James Bond films together and in sequence adn used to actually try to impose that will upon the Online, James Bond 04 is not useful to most users, they would be looking for Thunderball, likewise with virtually every aspect of the program The ultimate usefulness of the data is strictly a user interpretation and belongs nowwhere other than in the that user's LOCAL database.

Oh dear. All these years, I've been thinking that the data in the database should be "useful" - silly me. No, I'm sure this is the way to go: usefullness of the data belongs locally. Shall we ask Ken to plaster this notion over the opening page of this site? If that doesn't help in attracting new customers, I don't know what will. So far for our daily lesson in marketing from Skip...

Seriously: I'm sure John's comment reflects the opinion of the huge (and mostly silent) majority of DVD Profiler users. Most people have better things to do then trying to inject some common sense into the umpteenth mud-slinging match disguised as yet another nonsensical thread such as this one or the 1-cent-SRP-thing.

P.S. The James Bond-thing is of course another red herring: the sort title field has been a private/local field for years now, so this has nothing to with anything that you're saying.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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DVDProfiler: Not Useful... but you can make it so locally!"
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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<intermission:>
Am I the only one here who receives the impression, that all discussions concerning the rules end in an pub brawl? Is that really necessary?
</intermission:>

So, combatants go ahead! 
Thorsten
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdjskyler
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Registered: March 17, 2007
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James Bond 04 is not useful to most users, they would be looking for Thunderball

That's right, same as looking for "The Birds" and not "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds"

Quoting Lopek
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...are we agreed that it is "The Birds"?

Looks like there is a majority agreement in this thread toward that end.  The submission was withdrawn anyway, wasn't it?  (don't own that one)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Well, in an effort to sort of get back on topic, its simply intuitive that "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds" is FAR more useful than "The Birds."  After all, most everybody would instinctively look under "A" when searching for, or filing this film. 

EDIT: doh...forget it.  djskyler is way ahead of me.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLopek
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It was, but has since been resubmitted with additional notes.

Vote currently stands at 27 Yes, and 3 No.
Andy

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