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Richie:

Since I am apparently not allowed to diasgree with you.   Allow me to refer you the 25 different copies of "Romancing the Stone" from many different Regions/Localities and versions, yet all have been altered by the same user.

I will not defend my trying to defend the Online from the abuses of this or any other user behaving in a similar way. Ken & gerri have specifically said not to do this and for very good reason.

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Richie:

Since I am apparently not allowed to diasgree with you.   Allow me to refer you the 25 different copies of "Romancing the Stone" from many different Regions/Localities and versions, yet all have been altered by the same user.

I will not defend my trying to defend the Online from the abuses of this or any other user behaving in a similar way. Ken & gerri have specifically said not to do this and for very good reason.

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This would prevent potential vote stuffing by users who maintain unrealistic wishlists

Someone's wishishlist is not unrealistic, they make it in the hopes to buy or receive them as gifts in the future and that does not mean they are going to vote stuff.

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but cannot actually verify a great deal of a contribution without the disc.

Movies that are in my wishlist I can verify most of the contributions and the profiles that I can not verify I don't vote. If a contributer is changing a profile in my whish list that is a region 1 movie but replacing all data with region 2 info, I will vote no. In this case I don't need the disc to verify anything. There is other data that I could vote on with out having the disc.

vote stuffing is someone who adds a disc to there list just to vote and when the voting prosess is done they remove it.

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Yes I agree that richierich example is very unrealistic and that user should not be allowed to vote or contribute. That user is likely to be cross region contributing and never intends to own any of these films.

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In general, contributions should be made only for profiles which the contributor owns and can verify.  Similarly, contribution votes should be made only for profiles which the voter owns and can verify. 

However, there are exceptions.  Obviously, prerelease contributions do not require ownership.  They should be basic starter information (e.g. complete cast and crew is impossible to correctly contribute without having the disc).

Taking another case, if a particular locality has blank or limited cast info, and the submitter would like to fill it in with their verified cast from their own locality, I would tend to allow the voters who actually own the submitted locality to make the call.  However, the submitted contribution notes should clearly indicate that the cast is from the other locality, so that the voters and contribution evaluators can make an informed choice.

One additional reminder to please keep the contribution vote notes completely civil at all times.

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With Ken's statement from last night I am hoping the contributing to different versions/localities will stop for the most part (other then where Ken allowed in his statement). Is that a realistic hope? I don't know... maybe not at first but once it starts to get around I am hoping it will slow to what he said.

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There are specific cases which are spelled out in Ken's post, but he does say, and i agree that IN GENERAL we should not be contributing things we don't own.