Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next
X2: X Men United header in middle of cast list
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorOrici
Registered: May 18, 2007
United States Posts: 389
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
While watching X2: X Men United last night I noticed that in the middle of the cast list there is a header "Cast in order of appearence" should this be omitted from the cast list?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
No Godz, No Masterz
Registered: May 8, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 1,945
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would not add this.

Donnie
www.tvmaze.com
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
it should be ignored... is right in the rules...

Rules Quote:
Quote:
"Cast", "In order of appearance" or other similar headers at the start of the credits should not be entered.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting DarklyNoon:
Quote:
I would not add this.

Donnie


I would. 

No serious, I have seen profiles in which it was included. I think before this header the cast was the main cast, so it gives just the information, that now the other cast begins and is sorted in another way.

For me this information is nive to have but not needed. So I think I wouldn't enter it too, but is depending on personnel preference.

But what is not allowed, is to enter such a header, if it is at the beginning of the cast credits
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
it should be ignored... is right in the rules...

Rules Quote:
Quote:
"Cast", "In order of appearance" or other similar headers at the start of the credits should not be entered.


In this case it's in the middle of the credits.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I still wouldn't add it. Then you have the entire rest of the cast indented for no real reason.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Not to mention whenever you click on a person's name you would have on the majority of the cast their role being...

In Order of Appearance: Their Role
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
This is correct. In the cast list I wouldn't hava problem with it, but on the actor window it looks a bit "ugly".
If you open the dividers with " + " it looks a bit better but still not very nice.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,202
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
it should be ignored... is right in the rules...

Rules Quote:
Quote:
"Cast", "In order of appearance" or other similar headers at the start of the credits should not be entered.


In this case it's in the middle of the credits.

Indeed, this is not a header but a divider.  I have seen several variations of this, and always use a divider for it.  Note, I consider this a 'full cast division', so would use and episodic divider, not a group divider...this has the added benefit of not showing in the actor window.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
 Last edited: by TheMadMartian
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If it is (as the OP said) in the middle of the cast list... how can it be a Full cast division? because of that I have to disagree with you this time Martian.
Pete
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,202
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
If it is (as the OP said) in the middle of the cast list... how can it be a Full cast division? because of that I have to disagree with you this time Martian.

Because it fully divides the main cast from the rest of the cast.  It is a cast division, so I feel it should be entered.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantCalebAndCo
Ralphie shot first.
Registered: October 6, 2008
United States Posts: 1,932
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
If it is (as the OP said) in the middle of the cast list... how can it be a Full cast division? because of that I have to disagree with you this time Martian.

Because it fully divides the main cast from the rest of the cast.  It is a cast division, so I feel it should be entered.

I agree.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
Hello old friends!
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 2,372
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting CalebAndCo:
Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
If it is (as the OP said) in the middle of the cast list... how can it be a Full cast division? because of that I have to disagree with you this time Martian.

Because it fully divides the main cast from the rest of the cast.  It is a cast division, so I feel it should be entered.

I agree.

I agree with CalebAndCo's agreement
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
Proudly blocked by liars.
Registered: August 23, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 1,656
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting lyonsden5:
Quote:
Quoting CalebAndCo:
Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
If it is (as the OP said) in the middle of the cast list... how can it be a Full cast division? because of that I have to disagree with you this time Martian.

Because it fully divides the main cast from the rest of the cast.  It is a cast division, so I feel it should be entered.

I agree.

I agree with CalebAndCo's agreement


I agree with Lyonsden5's agreement of CalebAndCo's agreement.
Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com

"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
The rules for episode dividers is...

Quote:
Use Episode dividers for TV show episodes, distinct films, or other logical episodic distinction. Also use episode dividers for full cast division, such as "Japanese Voices".


I really do not believe that is the same thing. Where you have the English cast... and then the Japanese cast... it is 2 sets of FULL cast credits. Not Main cast and rest of cast division. That is how I read it at least.

So I must ask Ken to clarify... because as the rule is written now I would vote no to such a thing.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Norway Posts: 906
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:

Indeed, this is not a header but a divider.  I have seen several variations of this, and always use a divider for it.  Note, I consider this a 'full cast division', so would use and episodic divider, not a group divider...this has the added benefit of not showing in the actor window.


How is this allowed by the rules? A full cast division is a division that separates a cast list for a whole movie from another cast list for a whole movie. This is shown by the example given for full cast division (Japanese voices) and were intended to be used to separate different cast for different dubs of (animated) movies. Cast in order of appearance has nothing to do with full cast lists.

The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next