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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 27 |
| | Posted: | | | | I believe we are going to have a problem entering in child profiles for the 2 different sets of these movies that came out today. The set I bought have DVD+Blu-ray, the other set has Blu-Ray+DVD. have talked to another person that has the BD+DVD and he states that the disc id's are the same for his set as they are mine.
Is there a way to add both of them so that each has the differnet cover scans to match their set? |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | If one is DVD+Blu-ray shouldn't the DVD get the UPC and the Blu a Disc ID?
Likewise the Blu-ray+DVD would be Blu-ray getting UPC and DVD a Disc ID?
Four disc, four profiles. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 43 |
| | Posted: | | | | If you submitted the dvd of yours by upc then submitted the blu-ray by disc id for the child you'd have the correct scans and info for the one you got.
like tweeter said |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 114 |
| | Posted: | | | | Am I misunderstanding, or wouldn't you just add one UPC for each of the two different packages and individual disc IDs for the BD and DVD?
I don't know of anything that would keep the same disc IDs being used in two different box sets.
So, BD+DVD: UPC for package, box set contents: BD disc ID, DVD disc ID.
And DVD+BD: UPC for package, box set contents: DVD disc ID, BD disc ID.
Presuming the BD+DVD and DVD+BD have different UPCs. |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 43 |
| | Posted: | | | | blu-ray + dvd Blu-ray is submitted by upc and is parent and dvd is child and is submitted by disc id
dvd + blu-ray dvd should be submitted by upc and is parent and blu-ray is child should be submitted by disc id |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gridlock Joe: Quote:
Am I misunderstanding, or wouldn't you just add one UPC for each of the two different packages and individual disc IDs for the BD and DVD?
I don't know of anything that would keep the same disc IDs being used in two different box sets.
So, BD+DVD: UPC for package, box set contents: BD disc ID, DVD disc ID.
And DVD+BD: UPC for package, box set contents: DVD disc ID, BD disc ID.
Presuming the BD+DVD and DVD+BD have different UPCs. Two different media with the same film isn't a box set. One disc is the parent, the other the child. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wrong, tweeter. The newly updated Contribution Rules now list as one of the examples of a box set: "Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack)". Check it out here (the first change highlilghted in yellow). The rules then tell us the following: "Create individual profiles for each movie in these Box Sets. Use individual UPCs if they are available or use Disc ID (read on a DVD-ROM) if not. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a film is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging." | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well that doesn't seem like a good a idea to me.
Wonder what confusion there will be when they drop the DVD and it is just a BD (a one disc box set)? | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! | | | | Last edited: by tweeter |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would assume that such a release would have a UPC of its own and that it can be submitted by that UPC. So what's the problem?
Moreover, as soon as it's a single-media release, the rule I referred to no longer applies. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Wrong, tweeter. The newly updated Contribution Rules now list as one of the examples of a box set:
"Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack)".
Check it out here (the first change highlilghted in yellow).
The rules then tell us the following: "Create individual profiles for each movie in these Box Sets. Use individual UPCs if they are available or use Disc ID (read on a DVD-ROM) if not. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a film is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging." I think this was a mistake on Ken's part. That should have been added to the 'Bonus Feature Films' rule, not the Box Set rule. I will create a post in the Rules Forum, otherwise we have a lot of profiles to redo.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not sure about that, but I will say that how it has been worded now is certainly inconsistent. The Box Set chapter of the rules starts with the definition that a box set is any release that includes more than one film, and then goes on mentioning "sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack)" as an example...  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I suspected, Ken is just as human as the rest of us...super human, maybe, but still human.  The rule has been updated to match what we have been doing...profile for the main feature, child profile for the extra disc. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting simeonpro: Quote:
I believe we are going to have a problem entering in child profiles for the 2 different sets of these movies that came out today. The set I bought have DVD+Blu-ray, the other set has Blu-Ray+DVD. have talked to another person that has the BD+DVD and he states that the disc id's are the same for his set as they are mine.
Is there a way to add both of them so that each has the differnet cover scans to match their set? Quoting Ken Cole Quote:
A combo profile should use the HD media as primary, as detailed in the new example in the rules. Quoting Rules Quote:
Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile. |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not human. Zombie.  | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | and many more for the Super "Zombie" effort on this release of Profiler!!! |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | For those who want to know:
Toy Story: Keepcase UPC - 786936801378
Blu-Ray case UPC - 786936798340
Toy Story 2: Keepcase UPC - 786936801392
Blu-Ray case UPC - 786936798821 | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
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