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| Registered: May 17, 2007 |  Posts: 21 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi, I don't know how it's called in english or whether the word "turn cover" is correct but in Germany because of new laws the "FSK" logo has to be on the front of all covers until March 31th 2010. So many studios have already started to release DVDs where one side has this new huge and ugly "FSK" logo but some studios give also the possibility to turn the cover where is no "FSK" logo on it but with the same cover artwork. So my question is, is it allowed to contribute the cover artwork without the "FSK" logo? Sorry for possibly bad english but I'm from Germany  | | | | Last edited: by MassL |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 868 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think this was discussed before (can't find that thread), if i remember crrectly the consensus was to show the cover you'd see in the sores and thus scan/contribute only the cover with the FSK logo.
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 |  Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | Bilingual is the right term, if I remember correctly. Same with some canadian releases one side is in English language, and if you "turn the cover" there's French language. The same "law" is here in Norway, where the rating should be visible on the cover, its not a big logo, but the same as in Germany. Ratings here are 7 - 11 - 15 - 18. But never heard of it here in Norway that they will start to use bilingual covers | | | "What's God?"
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | They aren't bilingual bentyman. They're only in German not German one side & another language on the other.
I would definitely agree with having the rating side for the online scans. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,506 |
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| Registered: May 17, 2007 | | Posts: 21 |
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| Registered: May 28, 2007 | | Posts: 270 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hpopp: Quote:
...it is ok to submit covers without the logo as long as the flip-side is absolutely identical to the one with the FSK-Logo Especially the back covers often differ from the actual cover, they are without UPC/EAN (e.g. Universal flip coves). In that case the flip cover back isn't contributable. Quoting Contribution Rules: Quote:
The covers must match the profile exactly, including the UPC and locality.
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | The thread that hpopp linked says the most.
In my opinion it's ok to contribute the side of cover which has no FSK-logo, if the artwork is same.
Also it's right what RAPMAN wrote. Often the back of this "turn-covers" have no EAN/UPC. In this case i took the side with EAN/UPC to contribute.
Although it's then a mixed contribution of the cover, but i think it's the best possibility to have a nice front (without the ugly big logo) and also a back with assignment to the UPC.
As I've seen in many contributions, many of the other users also like this solution. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Although it's then a mixed contribution of the cover, but i think it's the best possibility to have a nice front (without the ugly big logo) and also a back with assignment to the UPC.  This will be exactly my approach when I have no alternative but to buy a german release with the ugly-logo. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I see the point, just exactly where do you draw the line? What about those ugly Australian covers, or the British, or even Norwegian? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Very few UK covers are reversible, I've only seen about 2 or 3. So it's not an issue over here.
Edit: Even if they did have reversible, they almost certainly would have to have the BBFC logo on the reverse as well. | | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
While I see the point, just exactly where do you draw the line? If there is a unspoiled cover that matches the one with the Logo 100% (except of course for the logo) I would always go for that one. I want filmcovers, not logo compilations, I loathe logos. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sure, but this isn't your personal DB. The rules need to be clear for everyone. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
Very few UK covers are reversible, I've only seen about 2 or 3. So it's not an issue over here.
Edit: Even if they did have reversible, they almost certainly would have to have the BBFC logo on the reverse as well. I don't know, my Star Trek box came with removable stickers... Is it okay if I contribute a scan without the stickers? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Sure, but this isn't your personal DB. The rules need to be clear for everyone. Directing back to Ken Cole's comment on that particular situation: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=376754&PageNum=3The rules on the contribution of flip-covers for the german releases (that was what the other thread was about, so I can not speak for other localities) are pretty clear. As long as the flip-cover is exactly the same as the one with the logo, except of course without the logo, the logo can be considered as something like a sticker and be contributed without the logo/sticker. If the flip-cover is designed differently on the side without the logo (like the Futureworld-cover), the cover with the logo has to be contributed. Btw, there have already been some DVDs that came with the logo as a sticker on a steelbook (Transporter 3 and Watchmen, for example)... |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinoniki: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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Very few UK covers are reversible, I've only seen about 2 or 3. So it's not an issue over here.
Edit: Even if they did have reversible, they almost certainly would have to have the BBFC logo on the reverse as well.
I don't know, my Star Trek box came with removable stickers... Is it okay if I contribute a scan without the stickers? I think they used the stickers because the same sets were released in other countries as well, it just made it cheaper for them to do so. I would probably vote "No" to removing those types of stickers from the covers. |
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