Need help in finding a birth year for either
Pam Wise (editor)
Films:
Then She Found Me
Undefended
Dark Matter
Transamerica
many more titles

Pam Wise (costume supervisor) aka: Pamela J. Wise
Films:
Hotel for Dogs (Pamela J. Wise)
Valkyrie (Pamela Wise) listed in second unit credits
Iron Man (Pam Wise)
Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause (Pam Wise)
Cast Away (Pam Wise)
The Polar Express (Pam Wise)
Hulk (Pam Wise)
many more titles

If there is no birth year to be found then we need some other way to seporate the two people.
Paulb99 brought this problem up in a contribution of Cast Away

Quoting Staid S Barr:

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I think we only document costume designers, not costume supervisors, whatever that means. So if this is the only job concerned, we may not have a problem yet.
In case we have a problem, I would suggest to use the name with the middle name as common name, and use Credited As were applicable. But I am sure someone will point out this is against the RULES.

Just a thought: supervisors that supervise people actually may rank higher than the people we profile, but supervisors that supervise things? What do they do all day?

According to the credits table in the rules, we actually document Costume Supervisors as well (like it or not)... 

Sorry I've checked & not been able to find a BY for either.

It's a long shot but perhaps try creating a thread to see if the 2nd one is most often credited as Pam or Pamela J.

CLT results for
Pam Wise: 19 titles (79 profiles): this one includes both Pam Wise (editor) and Pam Wise (Costume Supervisor)

Pamela J. Wise: 1 titles (3 profiles): I have found 1 more that she was not contributed for
Pamela Wise: 3 titles (6 profiles):

Quoting Pantheon:

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Personally if there's a Costume Designer listed I wouldn't bother with any Supervisors that follow. But that's just me!

Me neither. IMHO, the alternatives are listed because the costume designer is sometimes not actually credited as "costume designer", but given one of those alternative labels. I use it for those cases, but I don't use it to shoehorn a host of additional wardrobe credits into the profile by giving them a misguiding equal costume designer credit together with the ACTUAL costume designer. I'm actually a big fan of the clarification that is given in the crew credits table with regards to editors: how we're told to restrict our entries to the principal ones, "credited together". I try to apply that approach across the board.

Quoting T!M:

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Quoting Pantheon:

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Personally if there's a Costume Designer listed I wouldn't bother with any Supervisors that follow. But that's just me!

Me neither. IMHO, the alternatives are listed because the costume designer is sometimes not actually credited as "costume designer", but given one of those alternative labels. I use it for those cases, but I don't use it to shoehorn a host of additional wardrobe credits into the profile by giving them a misguiding equal costume designer credit together with the ACTUAL costume designer. I'm actually a big fan of the clarification that is given in the crew credits table with regards to editors: how we're told to restrict our entries to the principal ones, "credited together". I try to apply that approach across the board.

Shoehorn what? The table gives an exact definition of what's to be entered! If you don't like the addition of Costume Supervisor, then simply omit it from your local (if you even have one)! And please refrain from trying to ram your personal preferences upon everyone.... 

Quoting T!M:

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Quoting Pantheon:

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Personally if there's a Costume Designer listed I wouldn't bother with any Supervisors that follow. But that's just me!

Me neither. IMHO, the alternatives are listed because the costume designer is sometimes not actually credited as "costume designer", but given one of those alternative labels. I use it for those cases, but I don't use it to shoehorn a host of additional wardrobe credits into the profile by giving them a misguiding equal costume designer credit together with the ACTUAL costume designer. I'm actually a big fan of the clarification that is given in the crew credits table with regards to editors: how we're told to restrict our entries to the principal ones, "credited together". I try to apply that approach across the board.

At the risk of being accused of not being able to "pass up an opportunity to turn yet another thread sour for no reason..." I have to say that I can see where Berak is coming from.  The choice of words used, the part I bolded, can easily be seen as a dig at those people who do enter all the available credits listed in the crew chart...as can the use of the word 'technically' which, when used in this context, usually means, while you can do it, you really shouldn't.

Ooh, I just had a déjà vu moment. 

Normally I would not care but another user brought this up in a contribution that he was doing. I don’t like crediting two separate crew members and their jobs with only one person for both. In this case we have Pam Wise (editor) and a totally different person, Pam Wise (costume supervisor). After doing lots of research I could find no BY for either of them to distinguish them apart. Pam Wise (costume supervisor) is credit as Pam J. Wise (costume supervisor) is credited in Hotel for Dogs. I have Pam Wise (editor) credited in Then She Found Me. I have Pam Wise credited in A Time to Kill, The Pollar Express, The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause, Hotel for Dogs, Hulk, Cast Away.
I don’t want to link one person for all these films when it is two separate people and two separate roles.