Somewhat related to the current discussion of DTS as part of title, but more expansive, so I thought I'd start a new thread rather than hijack the DTS thread:

As I enter my relatively large collection into DVD Profiler for the first time, and having read the rules regarding DVD titles in the contribution rules, I'm finding there seem to be quite a few titles in the database that seemingly do not conform to the rules as I understand them.

Basically, it seems like the title is the title...it should not include descriptors such as "Widescreen" or "DTS" or "Collector's Edition" as these are all covered by the Edition entry in the General Profile.  HOwever, many of the DVD's I'm entering are downloading profiles as "Title X: Widescreen" or "Title Z: Collector's Edition."  It seems unlikely to me that all of these are incorrect and no one has made contributions to fix them.  So, what am I not understanding about the rules for titles?

A couple of examples from my collection, and my guess as to what the title really should be per the contribution rules:

From the existing profile:  The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Collector's Edition Widescreen
--Seems like it should be: The Lost World: Jurassic Park (CE/Widescreen entered elsewhere)

From the existing profile:  The New Guy: A Zero Will Rise
--Seems like it should be: The New Guy (the second part is a tag line, not part of the title)

From the existing profile:  Ice Age: The Meltdown: Widescreen Edition
--Seems like it should be:  Ice Age: The Meltdown (Widescreen entered elsewhere)

Thanks in advance for any input/explanations.  I just want to make sure I'm understanding the profile guidelines before I start submitting a bunch of contributions for title changes that may be incorrect or that may have already been discussed before and approved as-is for whatever reason.

The data for any given title is all right there on the front cover, I don't support Widescreen as we have Video Format data elsewhere in the program BUT some users seem to think it's importants....You are anewbie, were I you I would basically assume that any such data is correct as is and not touch it, the program has been around 10 years, you can do anything you want to do with your data locally, the Online is merely a starting point  that we all can build a customized database that fits our indiviodual needs.

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They are WRONG to you and even to some degree me, Tim. BUT theuy are not WRONG.

post edited to remove personal comments

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BTW, Tim and for gerri, I can't address one of the titles mentioned. BUT the data for two of the three titles is absolutely CORRECT as is and has been correct for a very long time,. Regardless what I think of the inclusion of Widescreen or Widescreen Edition. Tim, you might consider it wrong, I might consider it wrong, but its NOT wrong, the place to deal with it is locally.

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If you submit the changes on two of the titles be assured that I vote absolutely NO, and so I have no doubt will other users as the data for Ice Age AND for Jurassic Park is CORRECT as is. It may not meet with my personal approval in at least one instance, but we can't be whiplashing the Rules and the data just because a or some segment of users wants it, I fought agianst it originally and lost the baattle, it IS what it is.

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<sigh> Do we really have to go through all these insults over absolutely nothing every time you've simply misread something? Please do us all a favor and don't just shout at me for no reason, but take a deep breath and re-read the original post instead... If you do that, I'm sure you'll realize you were simply mistaken. I'll be looking forward to your apologies.

As I said before: none of this was necessary at all. Mixmaster_Mal asked a simple question and was given an equally simple answer - one I'm sure you'll agree with if you just give it two seconds. Why the need to turn this into a mudslinging match?

Mixmaster_Mal

Try this: In DVDProfiler - select the Tools menu, then Options. Under the Display tab change Edition to Title.

I downloaded all the R1 US entries for The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Ice Age: The Meltdown

The Collector's Edition Widescreen and Widescreen Edition are "somewhere else", they are in the Edition field.

The New Guy: A Zero Will Rise is incorrect in one profile and that profile should be updated

Quoting Mixmaster_Mal:

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Somewhat related to the current discussion of DTS as part of title, but more expansive, so I thought I'd start a new thread rather than hijack the DTS thread:

As I enter my relatively large collection into DVD Profiler for the first time, and having read the rules regarding DVD titles in the contribution rules, I'm finding there seem to be quite a few titles in the database that seemingly do not conform to the rules as I understand them.

Basically, it seems like the title is the title...it should not include descriptors such as "Widescreen" or "DTS" or "Collector's Edition" as these are all covered by the Edition entry in the General Profile.  HOwever, many of the DVD's I'm entering are downloading profiles as "Title X: Widescreen" or "Title Z: Collector's Edition."  It seems unlikely to me that all of these are incorrect and no one has made contributions to fix them.  So, what am I not understanding about the rules for titles?

A couple of examples from my collection, and my guess as to what the title really should be per the contribution rules:

From the existing profile:  The Lost World: Jurassic Park: Collector's Edition Widescreen
--Seems like it should be: The Lost World: Jurassic Park (CE/Widescreen entered elsewhere)

From the existing profile:  The New Guy: A Zero Will Rise
--Seems like it should be: The New Guy (the second part is a tag line, not part of the title)

From the existing profile:  Ice Age: The Meltdown: Widescreen Edition
--Seems like it should be:  Ice Age: The Meltdown (Widescreen entered elsewhere)

Thanks in advance for any input/explanations.  I just want to make sure I'm understanding the profile guidelines before I start submitting a bunch of contributions for title changes that may be incorrect or that may have already been discussed before and approved as-is for whatever reason.

I would just ask whether you actually went into the profile and looked at what was actually in the Title field versus what is actually in the Edition field.

Depending on your "display" options, in the DVD list it may appear as though the Edition is actually part of the title, when in fact, it's not.

One way to avoid this confusion, is to turn off the display of the Edition field altogether under Tools>Options>Display, and select radio button "Title".