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Have i Contributed to the Wrong Region?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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The Olympic Series: Golden Moments 1920 - 2002 (7640114160455)


This was one of the first profiles i did and the more i look at it the more I'm thinking if i have contributed it to the wrong region 
if this is not a UK profile what region should it be?
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It should be German, because the rating is German.
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The rating and the details like audio format, video format, running time and region code is in German on the back cover. Also the first half of the overview is in German, with an English translation beneath.
I would put it in locality "Germany".


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Looks like Swiss to me. (Look at the domain name for the publisher, www.evolution.ch,  .ch is Switzerland). Don't know how the ratings are in Switzerland though

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Quoting reybr:
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Looks like Swiss to me. (Look at the domain name for the publisher, www.evolution.ch,  .ch is Switzerland). Don't know how the ratings are in Switzerland though



Looks like a Swiss publisher who also released it in Germany (the ratings are definately German. I think the Swiss do not have any). So Germany and Switzerland are possible correct entries. It looks like it was released in both with the same cover.

According to Wikipedia, the UPC/EAN is for Switzerland:
"760 – 769 Switzerland and Liechtenstein"


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According to these sites (TG types faster than me)
GS1
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the UPC is Swiss but i don't think that necessarily means the profile should be Switzerland, i was thinking it should be Germany myself but just wanted to get confirmation but would like to be 100% sure first as i don't want to contribute to the wrong region again.
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To add fuel to the German profile argument, the first language listed is Deutsch, then English.  The legal notice (I think, my German has degenerated to the point of counting & cursing) at the bottom of the back cover is also in German.
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Oh my. My German is almost as bad as Rip Van Doctor's (I couldn't resist, Doc) , but it does appear to me to be German release.

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This is exactly the problem I faced when I was doing the bulk import from CollectorZ and DVDSPot. It was clear then that "Locality" was not well-defined, and this discussion is a perfect example of what happens as a result.

I think locality should be better defined in the future, and preferably in a way that is systematic. Then, even miscoded profiles could be fixed automatically.

Why not stay true to the UPC/EAN?
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I think based on UPC and publisher, it should be Swiss. We have two elements which clearly define this as a Swiss release. I don't think the language should override either of these points.
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Wom6at:

Not true, my friend. This is something that we have hear in R1 frequently. There are many releases, one of which will be R1 US and the other R1 Canada. Region 2 has this issue as well and I think R4 does too. It is very possible for the information for R1 US and R1 Canada to be virtually identical, the only separating feature would be the Canadian Rating instead of MPAA. Based on what I see and I won't pretend to be expert in this particular area, but it appears as if the releasing Company is based in Switzerland, but the release appears to be for R2 Germany.

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The problem is the UPC code is not reliable source for "Region" in Profiler, if you take this as an example THX 1138: The George Lucas Director's Cut (7321900111621)
this is a UK region profile but the issuing country for the UPC is Sweden
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I think based on UPC and publisher, it should be Swiss. We have two elements which clearly define this as a Swiss release.

Well, yes, but that would beg the question why a swiss release carries a german rating. 

But to be honest, I don't really see a problem here. If I'd had bought this particular DVD in a german shop, I would give it german locality. Had I bought in Switzerland, it would be a swiss locality, in Austria ... well you get the drift. I think that is exactly what the locality is there for.

The same DVD can be marketed through several channels, and on a rather special title like this it wouldn't be to far fetched to assume that one version is sold in all german speaking countries.

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The trouble with the "I bought it in Country X so it's Country X locality" argument is that sometimes a DVD bought in a locality was specifically imported to there, and didn't have an official release (therefore no local SRP). I have a number of music DVDs that are UK locality (they seem to be an exception in the eyes of the classification board), and a few others. I've also seen Japanese/HK titles listed in DVDP as UK releases... presumably because someone bought them in the UK.

Perhaps this is a Swiss release. I agree with others that it *may* be a German release. I would support either position taken by someone owning the title, or an official Invelos representative.
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Quoting mediadogg:
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Why not stay true to the UPC/EAN?


We have here "Nordic Releases", where UPC is same, back cover has info for the localities Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark. So even if you would add e.g. the overview in all 4 languages, you would still lose the Release Date, Title, SRP, Rating etc in 3 of the localities if you would stay true to the UPC.
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The UPC "country" depends solely on where the publisher is located. European free market means they can release it in any country, as long as the item follows laws in that country, with regards to ratings etc. We can rule out UK as there is no BBFC sticker.
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