Without getting too bogged down in the differing definitions of seasons and series from either side of the Pond, I was just wondering if there was any agreement (!) on, when they clash, whether disc level or season level profiles had priority.

To explain, if a set contains "The Complete Series" of 3 seasons (say, spread over 6 discs, 2 for each season) the rules say we can/should treat the parent profile as a boxset with each of the seasons as a child profile.

This is easy enough with something like Buffy when the seasons are sold separately and then later sold as a Complete set as the season sets can just be set as children of the complete Set parent.

However IF the seasons are not available separately and someone has (quite reasonably) submitted disc level profiles for all 6 discs then the only way to get SEASON level profiles is to overwrite those profiles.
ie. Season 1 submitted under the first disc's Disc ID (with disc info for discs 1 and 2 in the profile), Season 2 submitted under the 3rd disc's Disc ID (with disc info for discs 3 and 4 in the profile) etc.

BTW this is more common in the UK because often, even when previously released seasons are packaged together in a Complete "big box", the EAN is removed and a 'Not to be sold separately' slogan put in its place.

Basically, has there ever been an agreement on whether doing this at the season level would take 'priority' over the (optional) disc level profiles, or is it a case of who gets there first, as with multiple titles with the same EAN/UPC, so it just has to be kept local?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

I agree with Pete. First come, first served.

Actually Tim... there is nothing definite in that notation. It is left as open as disc level profiles are for TV Series in the rules.

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Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile.

There is nothing there saying that you have to. Just that you CAN apply the boxset rules. So disc level profiles is just as correct as using seasons as children.

The key to the OP is that he states that the "seasons are not available separately".

If they are not available separately, then we should not be profiling the season itself, at all.

The Child profiles should remain untouched.

Why would we agree on that? Can don't mean it should be done. Can means the option is there.... no more and no less then that.

I for one will always go by what is actual in the rules. Not what I (or anyone other then Ken or Gerri) want them to say.

I certainly don't recall an "over and over again discussion" agreeing to "SHOULD apply the box set rules". There is NO way I would personally have agreed to that.

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There is nothing there saying that you have to. Just that you CAN apply the boxset rules. So disc level profiles is just as correct as using seasons as children.

We discussed that over and over again - I thought that by now we all agreed we read that as "SHOULD apply the box set rules". Either way, I feel season level profiles should prevail. Certainly, anything is better than the "first one in wins"-principle.

Truth is, in practice, this is what is done in most cases. 

However, if a TV show is released with multiple seasons included and they have never been released individually, and they don't have their own UPC, why would you want to profile the season using the Disc ID of the first disc which for the most part is an empty profile, in lieu of a fully populated profile of the first child profile?

That just doesn't make any sense to me.

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why would you want to profile the season using the Disc ID of the first disc which for the most part is an empty profile, in lieu of a fully populated profile of the first child profile?

Why would you think it would be empty? That would not even be allowed by the rules. For instance: "In either case, the cast and crew are to be entered into the parent profile using appropriate episode dividers." So they'd be full season profiles, with absolutely nothing missing.