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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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When the edition does not appear on the cover but is printed on the disc should the edition be used?

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The rules say you have to take it from the box.
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The rules say you have to take it from the box.

I thought that rule only applies to a non standard edition?
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The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
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I don't know if it should be used but there is nothing in the rules that say it can't be used.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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The rules say you have to take it from the box.

I thought that rule only applies to a non standard edition?


That was my understanding as well. I personally don't see why you can't use it.
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The rules say you have to take it from the box.

Well, technically it has come from the box... as long as the disc is still inside it. 

But yeah, I agree with the others, as it is a standard edition it doesn't have to be on the cover to add it.
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OK I'll explain why I'm asking the question.
When i first started using the programme i tried to remove an Edition stating in my contribution notes that "it was not on the front cover" i received "No" votes saying that it was printed on the disc and standard editions (any from the drop down list) could come from anywhere on the DVD which was fair enough, again after me another person tried to remove it again stating it was not on the cover this person also received many "No" votes and it was declined, but recently another person removed the edition for the same reasons "not on cover" but this time everyone voted "Yes" and it was approved, so i was just wondering have peoples attitude changed as to were a "Standard" edition can be taken from?
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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

Skip

Have you actually read my post
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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

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The rules don't actually say what is considered a legitimate source in most cases. Only for NON-STANDARD descriptions is it said to use the box.

The wording currently in place is -

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Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.


To me that says that for STANDARD descriptions, taking it from the disc is fine.
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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

Skip

Have you actually read my post

Yes, I did, but it's irrelevant. the rules tell you what to do.<shrugs>

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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

Skip

Have you actually read my post

Yes, I did, but it's irrelevant. the rules tell you what to do.<shrugs>

Skip

Then you can quote the relevant section that deals with standard editions.
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What do the Rules say? Ninehours, do they say to use the Disc for this...NO they don't.

Skip

Have you actually read my post

Yes, I did, but it's irrelevant. the rules tell you what to do.<shrugs>

Skip

No you have not properly read my post <shrugs> because you say that the edition should not come from what is printed on the disc and that is what i am also saying, but the rules as they stand do allow it, if you had properly read my post you will see that it was twice voted down for its removal but this time it was not and i just wanted to know if peoples opinion about standard editions and where they can come from had changed
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I think I can see the merits of both sides:

YES: The rule doesn't say where to look for standard editions. Therefore the more general rule would apply: "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself", and that includes the disc.
Besides, "Special Edition" from the disc is useful to distinguish between different editions.

NO: I guess the rule doesn't say "from the box" just because it's too obvious. That's where edition description are usually found. And that's where you can take non-standard descriptions from, according to the rule. Why should standard description be taken elsewhere? The only reason the rule doesn't say where to take standard descriptions from is that you don't need to, because theyt already are in the drop down list.
Besides, we don't submit an image of the disc to the database, so it would impossible to verify unless you own the disc and go check it.

All in all, I personally like better the NO reasons, but I would be fine with either decision as long as there is a clarification to avoid ping-pongs.
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The rules say you have to take it from the box.

I thought that rule only applies to a non standard edition?
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Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.


The rule is crystal clear.  If you are using a non-standard description...meaning something other than one of the built-in selections...you must take it from the DVD box.

There is no such requirement when you use one of the built-in selections.
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