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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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I want to know why certain people think the websites they mention as a source for SRP is any more valid than the ACTUAL price paid when ordering that DVD for another, different site.

I put up a contribution for The Tudors: The Complete Second Season that had previously only been a pre-release profile.  I entered the actual dollar value I paid to Amazon because Amazon notified me that the retail price had dropped from the manufacturer and I was getting the benefit of that savings. I checked a bunch of sites selling that title and prices are all slightly different, but most are between $24.99 and $29.00.  Who is to say which of them is more accurate than the next?

I used Amazon because they are probably the largest online retailer of all, and nobody pays MSRP for this stuff, and most of the time you can't even get a good MSRP from the manufacturer.
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Neither the price paid nor the retail price of any given retailer is a valid source for the SRP.
If the information for the SRP is limited to such material I would opt to leave the field blank.

It's something completely different if the retailer labels his price in a way like: "SRP xxx $ -> our price xxy $". That's when we have a source for a SRP, which, because it isn't the officially from the distributor, should be verified against the data from another retailer.
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John,

You've been around long enough to know that we do not use the actual retail price for this field, which is what Amazon's $24.99 price is.

The Suggested Retail Price (SRP) listed at Amazon is $40.99.  That's what goes in the SRP field. 

Edit: Deepdiscount lists SRP as $39.95; B&N lists SRP as $39.99; DVDEmpire lists SRP as $42.99.

Take your pick, but don't change it for small discrepancies from one retailer site to the next.
Hal
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Quoting hal9g:
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The Suggested Retail Price (SRP) listed at Amazon is $40.99.  That's what goes in the SRP field.

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Quoting Rifter:
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ACTUAL price paid when ordering that DVD

I am shure you know about the field that you can put what you have paid and where it is located. There is a difference between the SRP(MSRP) and what you actually pay.
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What hal said...
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Hal is right. SRP is Suggested Retail Price. and is set by the Distributor and has NOTHING to do with the price paid. However you CAN buy DVDs at SRP, if you go to Walt Disney World and buy Sleeping Beauty you will pay the FULL SRP.

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The Suggested Retail Price (SRP) listed at Amazon is $40.99.  That's what goes in the SRP field.

Agree
Quoting hal9g:
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ACTUAL price paid when ordering that DVD

I am shure you know about the field that you can put what you have paid and where it is located. There is a difference between the SRP(MSRP) and what you actually pay.


You got your quotes backwards! 
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To throw another source into the works, I always refer to the database at Home Theater Information for Region 1 DVDs.  This shows an SRP of $38.99 for The Tudors: The Complete Second Season.  The disclaimer at Home Theater Information's dvdlist page states (bolded text by me):
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New titles are added daily or when I get the announcements from the studio and the list is ZIPed and placed in the download area several times daily so keep checking back regularly. This list represents only titles officially announced and those confirmed by the studios, I usually wait for a UPC code to be issued. In some of these announcements, particularly the smaller studios, details are omitted. If you have any information please let me know so I can add it to the list.

I find this source to be useful for both release dates and SRPs, rather than to rely on information from vendors which, as others have pointed out, vary to one degree or another.
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John,

You've been around long enough to know that we do not use the actual retail price for this field, which is what Amazon's $24.99 price is.

The Suggested Retail Price (SRP) listed at Amazon is $40.99.  That's what goes in the SRP field. 

Edit: Deepdiscount lists SRP as $39.95; B&N lists SRP as $39.99; DVDEmpire lists SRP as $42.99.

Take your pick, but don't change it for small discrepancies from one retailer site to the next.


Out of curiosity, how come those SRPs are different?
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Quoting hal9g:
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John,

You've been around long enough to know that we do not use the actual retail price for this field, which is what Amazon's $24.99 price is.

The Suggested Retail Price (SRP) listed at Amazon is $40.99.  That's what goes in the SRP field. 

Edit: Deepdiscount lists SRP as $39.95; B&N lists SRP as $39.99; DVDEmpire lists SRP as $42.99.

Take your pick, but don't change it for small discrepancies from one retailer site to the next.


Out of curiosity, how come those SRPs are different?


Good question.

You would think that the distributor would give the same SRP number to all of their retailers!   
Hal
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I have a suspicion that some of those retailers are perhaps Canadian - could that explain some of the discrepancies?

Edit: it seems the boxset was pushed by a week from 30 Dec to 6 Jan. It's possible the SRP was changed too and some retailers haven't updated their price info.
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I have a suspicion that some of those retailers are perhaps Canadian - could that explain some of the discrepancies?


The ones I quoted are all U.S. dollars.
Hal
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To throw another source into the works, I always refer to the database at Home Theater Information for Region 1 DVDs.  This shows an SRP of $38.99 for The Tudors: The Complete Second Season.  The disclaimer at Home Theater Information's dvdlist page states (bolded text by me):
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New titles are added daily or when I get the announcements from the studio and the list is ZIPed and placed in the download area several times daily so keep checking back regularly. This list represents only titles officially announced and those confirmed by the studios, I usually wait for a UPC code to be issued. In some of these announcements, particularly the smaller studios, details are omitted. If you have any information please let me know so I can add it to the list.

I find this source to be useful for both release dates and SRPs, rather than to rely on information from vendors which, as others have pointed out, vary to one degree or another.


Exactly.  Relying on a vendor site is dangerous.  They can put any number in the SRP box that they want to and no one will say boo.  Home Theater Info is much preferable since it's derived from the studio announcements themselves.  The only thing better would be going to the studio's own website (which you probably would want to do if there has in fact been a SRP reduction, since Home Theater Info might not reflect that).  Unfortunately, The Tudors Season 2 isn't listed anywhere that I can find on Paramount Home Entertainment's website.
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I agree with the other comments. The original SRP at the time of the release should be used, and it's always good to check it from multiple sources for consistency.

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Exactly.  Relying on a vendor site is dangerous.  They can put any number in the SRP box that they want to and no one will say boo.  Home Theater Info is much preferable since it's derived from the studio announcements themselves.  The only thing better would be going to the studio's own website (which you probably would want to do if there has in fact been a SRP reduction, since Home Theater Info might not reflect that).  Unfortunately, The Tudors Season 2 isn't listed anywhere that I can find on Paramount Home Entertainment's website.


I am still trying to find out the original SRP for Holocaust: Anniversary Edition which has wildy varying SRP's listed on multiple online stores. It varies from $39.99 on Amazon, to $34.95 at Deep Discount, to $29.99 at Buy.com, and other prices listed elsewhere...and that's been consistent and unchanged since it was released. I can't locate the release on Home Theater Info's website and Paramount Home Entertainment's website is also no help in resolving the issue.
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I voted no on the contribution for all the reasons stated here.

You're entering $24.99 into the SRP field, which is the price you paid, not the SRP. I even stated in my no vote that the SRP at amazon.com is actually $40.99, not $24.99. That's simply the price they're selling it at, not the SRP (which is $40.99).

As everyone has said, the SRP on this season seems to vary between about $35 and $45, but nowhere that I checked before voting no on the contribution had the original SRP as low as $24.99.
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